U.S. on the Med Israel Supreme Court Welcomes illegals To other's neighborhoods

 

Citizens: Are we not human beings too?

 

Following in the unwise steps of the U.S., Israel's Supreme Court struck down a law to detain and deport illegal immigrants. Now the invasion will take over south Tel Aviv where no justices reside.

In a Times of Israel article heded In dramatic ruling, High Court rejects Israel’s policies on illegal migrants, we learn that In a landmark ruling, the High Court of Justice knocked down the Knesset’s “infiltrator law” on Monday, declared that the practice of holding African migrants in facilities in southern Israel for up to a year was illegal, and ordered the state to shutter the contested Holot center within 90 days

The ruling may jeopardize the Court's authority as some Knesset members vow to disregard the ruling.

Lame duck Interior Minister Gideon Sa’ar said he could “not accept the verdict of the High Court,” which, if implemented, would mean “we won’t have a Jewish democratic state because our borders will be overrun… with illegal infiltrators.” He said the court had “made a mistake” and that the Knesset would now have to pass legislation preventing the High Court from intervening on the issue.

Sa'ar's only concern seems to be demographics. The people of southern Tel Aviv object to the illegals roaming freely in their neighborhoods because, they claim, many of the illegals are committing crimes - theft and rape among them.

According to the Times article, The court decision adopted the position of human rights groups and shot down an appeal submitted on behalf of the residents of southern Tel Aviv, where many migrants live and where veteran residents claim they fear for their safety. The court maintained that the extended detention of migrants was a violation of their rights.

Housing Minister Uri Ariel, of the Orthodox-nationalist Jewish Home party, said the High Court “broke a new record today on turning its back on the state of Israel.”

Jewish Home MK Ayelet Shaked, who heads the Knesset caucus on migrants, declared: “Today the lives of hundreds of thousands of Israelis were destroyed.”

A statement from the Israeli Immigration Policy Center maintained the decision “put an end to the hopes of the residents of south Tel Aviv, and to any process of removing the infiltrators."

In a related Times of Israel article, Shlomo Maslawi, leader of the Ganei HaTikvah Neighborhood Association, said, “The High Court revealed its insensitivity and accepted the appeals of human rights organizations. Are we not human beings too? Now why would the infiltrators ever leave?” Gila, another resident of south Tel Aviv, said, “This was heaven here before the Eritreans and Sudanese arrived.”

Apparently the Israeli justices take their lead from U.S. politicians and courts which have, for several administrations, made illegals legal by the swipe of a pen or a fiat from on high.

In the U.S., most of the illegals - to be politically correct, undocumented aliens - cross the border for a better life; few are - or at least were - Islamist terrorists.

In the U.S., most illegals find work and avoid criminal activities.

In the U.S., residents (except in New York City) are allowed to arm themselves to protect life and property; that is NOT the case in Israel where residents are defenseless; like New York City, only the terrorists and criminals can have weapons.

At least the U.S. is big enough to absorb the illegals; it is able to add more burdensome taxes on the legal residents to feed, house, teach, and provide medical care for the illegals. Israel is about the size of New Jersey. It already taxes its population for socialized everything and for a huge defense budget; New Jersey at least doesn't have a defense budget to worry the taxpayers.

When a court starts putting invaders ahead of the citizens rights and safety, something is wrong with the court and it needs to be abolished and re-established with a mandate to provide justice for all - not just illegal immigrants, criminals, and terrorists.

Guard your heritage Ask

 

As each holiday and "life event" nears I realize how much I regret not asking Saba how he did things, that I failed to ask Savta why she did what she did.

Saba, ע''ה, died more than a decade ago. Savta is "hanging in there," but at "80-something" her memory isn't what it was.

I did manage to ask him some questions and I tried to learn at his side when I visited him in Bet Shean, but I never thought there would come a time when I wanted to ask him something and he wouldn't be there to give me an answer or point me in the right direction.

It may not be "proper" to say you miss someone who has died, but let me put it this way: I miss his answers to my questions that, despite my resources, only he could answer.

The questions aren't always of a Grand Scale. Usually they are answers to the mundane or arcane. For example, Why do people get upset in a Moroccan synagogue when a person crosses his legs?

Not an earth shattering question or one that would stump the talmud hakham, but one that bothered me enough to ask it.

The answer, it turns out, is typical Jewish mentality - as the Ashkenazim say, "Yiddisher knop."* It seems, Saba told me, that in Morocco it was considered an insult to cross you legs in front of a judge. It that is so, how much greater an insult to cross you legs before the Judge of Judges ! (What I learned after Saddam Hussein Abd al-Majid al-Tikriti was hanged, and his enemies slammed the soles of their shoes against his statue - it's the sole of the shoe, shown when legs are crossed, that is the insult. Did Saba know that? Does it matter? The main thing is that he knew why I shouldn't cross my legs in synagogue.

North African traditions often don't align with Mizrachi - Syrian, Iranian, Iraqi - traditions. In fact, Morocco being a rather large country you can find different traditions within the border; even different pronunciations of the same Hebrew words.

Sometimes a North African tradition seems to be the same as an Ashkenazi tradition, and the Rema is not unknown in North Africa. But Morocco has its own hakhamim and centers of Jewish learning.

Coming up on Rosh HaShanna I wish I could ask Saba what signs were on the table in Bene Malal, Meknes, Fez, or Tafillalt. I don't remember the order (seder) of the Rosh HaShanna meal: kiddish, natelat and then …
 *   motze lehem or
 *   the signs (date, etc.)

Had I paid better attention I would have been able to pass this along to my sons.

But I didn't, and now I regret it.

The point of this harangue is to strongly encourage you to talk to your elders - within your family and within the community - and to record their memories.

We are too often in a hurry to get "someplace" that is at best only a temporary stop that we fail to appreciate the traditions of our parents and grandparents.

Record their voices; write down their memories. Even if it means nothing to you, it might mean a great deal to your children and children's children.

Sure, I have resource materials, but it's simply not the same.

 

* The only Yiddish I know is Hebrew, so please forgive my poor attempt.

Opuscula We have Met the enemy And he is us

Our bad behavior shames
Jews before the entire world

 

Here we are, just days away from Rosh HaShana and Yom Kippur and we read headlines such as

Rabbi Pinto Agrees to Plea Bargain Agreement

WikiLeaks delves into Dead Sea sales scam and Raft of complaints over Dead Sea kiosks

It seems, on first blush, that both the rabbi and the Dead Sea product sales folks share one thing in common:

GREED

The greed of these people plays into the hands of the anti-Semites who joyfully shout: "See, we told you they want all our money."

The people are drilling holes in the proverbial boat in which all Jews must sit.

I'm curious.

Will Yoshiyahu Yosef Pinto, who comes from distinguished families on BOTH sides. On his father's side he is the great-grandson of Haim Pinto, a Moroccan sage; on his mother's side, he is the grandson of Rabbi Yisrael Abuhatzeira, the Baba Sali.

According to a Wikipedia biography, Pinto graduated from Ashkenazi Lithuanian yeshivot, and studied under Ashkenazi and Hassidic rabbis, including Rabbi Shmuel Auerbach, director of the Lithuanian-style Ma’alot Hatorah yeshiva located in Jerusalem. Pinto also was influenced by Satmar Hassidism and his teachings.

For Pinto, his plea bargain in Israel is only the tip of the proverbial iceberg. He also has a slew of legal problems in the U.S., most if not all civil (not criminal) issues. A number of his followers, however, have been investigated for possible criminal charges.

DEAD SEA SCANDAL

According to Stuff.co.nz, A diplomatic cable released by whistleblower website WikiLeaks has shed new light on the mysterious activities of Israelis selling Dead Sea beauty products at malls in New Zealand and the US.

The cable, prepared by the previous US ambassador to Israel, James Cunningham, alleges immigration fraud, illegal labour, money laundering and worker exploitation in an industry now worth a billion dollars.

An aside.

My First Born is a cop. He visited his parents when we lived near Washington D.C. On a trip to a local high-end mall we spotted some Israel's selling Dead Sea products.

Being an Israeli-born wise guy, he approached the Israelis, flashed his badge, and demanded to see their papers. Instant panic. None of the Israelis were in the U.S. on a visa that permitted them to work.

Next time you hear someone complaining about "Mexican wetbacks," know there also are many Israeli wetbacks.

According to the New Zealand sites (ibid.), Dead Sea beauty kiosks are turning over millions of dollars - despite continual complaints about aggressive and deceptive sales tactics. Tony Wall reveals who is behind the kiosks, and why the malls won't clamp down on them.

The money flowing through Dead Sea beauty kiosks is staggering, according to insiders. Sources familiar with the Israeli-run operation here and overseas have told the Sunday Star-Times it's a licence to print money.

"They're literally doing 10 to 12 grand a day per stall, and that's a bad day," an informed source claimed of the New Zealand business.

A US source said he was speaking out because he felt the businesses there were unethical, charging customers who were perceived as wealthy hundreds or even thousands of dollars for beauty products that cost only a few dollars to produce. Customers perceived as "poor" would be charged a fraction of that, he claimed.

"They are predators, it's just an ugly business."

 

This is not Pogo's first appearance on this blog. The "We have met the enemy" comment appeared on March 24, 2014 in an entry headed: We met the enemy and he is us, a few thoughts about the diplomats' strike.

Still more on tefillin Counting to seven

 

When a Jewish man wraps his hand tefillin he wraps the strap (רצועה) seven complete turns.

Judaism seems to discourage counting anything "by the numbers." Instead, phrases containing the exact number of words are used in lieu of numbers.

For the seven complete turns of the hand tefillin strap, the sedur אבותנו suggests reciting

 1: תורה

 2: ציוה

 3: לנו

 4: משה

 5: מורשה

 6: קהילת

 7: יעקב

Some prefer to use the last (of three) stanza of the cohanic blessing:

 1: ישא

 2: ''

 31: פניו

 4: אליך

 5: וישם

 6: לך

 7: שלום

Counting the number of men to make a minyan is prohibited. But, there are several word options.

If you like to eat, and who doesn't, consider counting using the blessing for bread, המוציא, to count up to 10:

 1: ברוך

 2: אתה

 3: ''

 4: אלוהנו

 5: מלק

 6: העולם

 7: המוציא

 8: לחם

 9: מין

 10: הארץ

Since that is a frequently said phrase, it's relatively easy to remember.

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Opuscula Great idea Dies at birth

 

Choose your headlines:

   Egypt offers Abbas a Palestinian state in Sinai

   Sisi Offered Abbas: Create Palestinian State in Sinai

   Egypt: Establish Palestinian State in Sinai

Unfortunately, there were later headlines, including

   El-Sisi denies claims he’ll give Sinai land to Palestinians

   Egypt Denies Offering Land for ‘Sinai State of Palestine’

Good as it seemed, the plan if it was proposed would never be accepted by the PA politicians or the "West Bank" Muslims.

Just as we refused to accept the English offer to carve a Jewish homeland out of Uganda, the indigenous Muslims of the area controlled by the PA will never accept any land other than the land they are on now. Unlike the Jews under Israeli government control, no one will send a PA army in to forcibly remove Muslims from the homes they have occupied since the area was controlled by Jordan.

It could have been a win-win-win if (a) el-Sisi had indeed made the offer and (b) Abu Mazen and the former residents of Jordan had accepted.

The plan would have united all PA territories into one large, viable unit.

The plan would have given a united PA the ability to create sea ports in Gaza and on the Suez.

The plan would have given a united PA at least one airport - albeit one that needs substantial repair.

The plan would have given former Jordanian citizens new, modern homes compliments of the UN, EU, possibly the Arab states - especially those who want to empty the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) camps festering within their borders. New homes are contingent on the PA rulers making certain building materials are used for buildings and not tunnels or bunkers from which to fire missiles at Egypt and Israel.

The downside is that Abu Mazen would be face-to-face with his nemesis Hamas. He has proven he cannot control Hamas and he cannot prevent attacks on Israel and Egypt by Hamas.

More, the new country would be between two others it has made enemies: Egypt and Israel. Given the cooperation between the two against Hamas, the new country could could be squeezed by the two armies into a quiet, if not peaceful, state.

On top of that, the alleged offer from el-Sisi came with a rope - not just a string - attached; the former Jordanians would have to forego - give up - any demands that Israel return to its earlier borders. Any hope to have the historic Jewish capital become even a shared capital would be lost.

The real roadblocks - assuming el-Sisi did make the offer - are that

(a) The PA would lose its raison d'etre, its reason to exist.

(b) The PA would lose its claim to Israeli land, including the so-called "West Bank" captured from Jordan following the latter's invasion of Israel.

(c) The anti-Semites would lose one reason to hate Jews and Israel - they should be able to afford to give up one reason; they have imagined so many.

(d) The relocated Muslims would have to work to make the Sinai blossom; to irrigate and plant new olive trees and fruit orchards.

ON THE OTHER HAND, the Sinai has oil fields. Oil fields already in place. The map, below, shows known oil reserves. The relocated "Palestinians" could hire contractors to extract the oil and pay royalties to the residents (assuming any would get past the leadership's pockets).

It would be interesting to see how the former citizens of Jordan would vote if all the options - all the pros and all the cons of relocation - were presented to them honestly.

From Israel's perspective, creating a Palestinian state in the Sinai, to include Gaza, would have been a positive move. For the former Jordanians with foresight or greed, the move also would be a positive. For the Islamists and PA politicians, this could, if they played their cards right, also reward them with oil money and money that could be diverted to tunnels and rockets. I don't know what Egypt expected to gain; perhaps putting the PA on the hot seat to maintain a "no fire zone" in the Sinai where today bandits roam freely.

Opuscula When to recite Selihot מתי להתפלל סליחות

 

I read in a local "Jewish" newspaper that one of the Sefardi congregations is having selihot at 6 p.m. - "p.m." as in "evening."

I watched a brief youtube video, Sephardic Selichot services, where the rabbi and most of the men with him were reciting selihot while wearing tallit and tefillin.

I suppose "different strokes for different folks" and that I should be glad that selihot are being said, regardless of the time.

My Father-In-Law, ע''ה, told me that in Morocco where he lived before making aliyah in the early 1960s, a crier would roam the streets of the Jewish neighborhood (milah) waking up the men by banging on doors and yelling "SELIHOT!" (Women can, but most do not, get up for selihot; likewise, talmedai yeshivot and hakhamim are exempt since they are expected to be up studying well past midnight - generally this exemption is cancelled for the days between Rosh HaShanna and Yom Kippur.)

In Bet Shean, Israel, largely populated by North African (mostly Moroccan) immigrants, the men would congregate in open areas to recite selihot "קןל רם" (in raised/loud voices) - much to my wife's displeasure. I hasten to add that she was but a child then and wanted her sleep.

The big Sefardi congregation in my neighborhood starts selihot at 6 a.m.. My little congregation starts at "five something"; the "something" depending on the length of the day for the "netz" minyan.

I'd like to start even earlier since the actual selihot prayers are preceded by

Washing the hands (נטילת ידים), with blessing

Morning blessings (ברכת השחר)

Blessings for the Torah (ברכת התורה)

Night prayers of Leah and Rachel (תקון חצות)

at a minimum, then kaddish "al Israel" AND THEN the start of selihot.

According to most authorities, certainly most Sefardi authorities, selihot are recited before sunrise (עלות השחר). This presents a quandary for Ashkenazim - does the hazan don a tallit (gadol) or not given that a tallit is only worn at night once-a-year (erev Yom Kippur). For the Sefardi hazan, no problem; he doesn't don tallit and tefillin until time for regular morning prayers. (Which is why I found the video, ibid., a little strange.)

My congregation is a mix of Ashkenazim and Sefardim - the Sefardim are the majority. We have two (2) rabbis; one, an Ashkenazi rabbi who shows up every morning that he's in town - he is a programmer and occasionally is forced to travel to a client site - even though his time for selihot doesn't start until the week before Rosh HaShanna. Next to him sits another Ashkenazi (no, we don't segregate them or put a makhitza between them and us). When we show up before the sun David - one of the resident Ashkenazim - decides to "play my Ashkenazi card" and doesn't appear until time for the regular morning service. That's OK; come Pesach he can't have kitniyot . . . poor fellow. As it happens, the Sefardi rabbi also works; neither takes a salary.

My little Sucath David selihot book starts off the selihot service in small print with "I got up in the middle of the watch" ("קמתי באשמורת לבקש") to ask forgiveness of HaShemץ. It doesn't say WHICH "watch," but tradition is that it's the midnight watch. Selihot is supposed to start anytime after halakic midnight - that means midnight by a "proportional minutes" clock where hours are adjusted according to the hours of daylight in the day. (I refer to My Zmanim.com.)

I don't need a town crier to come banging on my door to wake me for selihot - the neighbors, mostly Ashkenazi, and the wives, would not appreciate that. But we manage a "minyan plus" every morning.

Sefardim start selihot on the second day of Elul. Maybe we should start asking forgiveness of our offenses to our fellows on the same day. After all, we learn that we must at least try to seek forgiveness from our neighbors before we can approach HaShem on Yom Kippur.

Opuscula It is all in how The message spins

 

The Times of Israel for Friday, September 5 2014, has two related articles that give a clue as to how Israel and its gas clients view proposed sales to Jordan.

Israel-Jordan gas deal a bulwark against Jihadis: expert

Jordanian minister downplays Israeli role in large gas deal

The first article (Israel-Jordan) has a "feel good" top that states Top security official says the $15 billion sale of Israeli natural gas could bolster regimes in Jordan and Egypt

The second article (Jordanian minister) tells how this will play in Jordan: Mohammad Hamed says US firm Noble Energy will be supplier, though resources will be from Israeli field.

Maybe it's better that way; if the jihadists want to stir up trouble - OK, even more trouble - for Israel they can claim the money-hungry Jews are charging Jordan and Egypt exorbinate prices even if the prices are at or below the market price (and probably lower than what Israel Electric Corp will be paying in Israel).

Israel already has a deal to sell to the "Palestinians" even though they are notorious for not paying their bills.

Israel-Jordan gas deal a bulwark against Jihadis: expert

The agreement to sell Jordan natural gas worth $15 billion over the next 15 years is the third leg of a trilateral regional arrangement designed to shore up relations between Jerusalem, Amman and Cairo – and to ensure the survival of the regimes in two Arab nations, according to Brig. Gen. (Res.) Nitzan Nuriel, research associate at the International Institute for Counter-Terrorism, IDC Herzliya. “Israel will produce the gas, Egypt will liquefy it, and Jordan will benefit from it, along with Egypt and Israel,” said Nuriel. “The people in all three countries will be very happy to have a secure supply of energy at a reasonable price.”

“Of course they (Jordan) are free to back out of this gas deal, but they know that this is the best alternative for them. Israel is not going to play politics with the gas the way some Gulf states have tried to, and they know this. With Israel, a contract is a contract, and the secure supply of energy at a reasonable price will help people ‘forget’ where it came from.”

In June, Israel signed a deal with Egypt to transfer gas there, where it will be liquefied, and then shipped back to Israel – and now to Jordan as well – for use in electrical plants. “For the first time, all three countries will have a safe, assured, and cheap supply of electricity,” said Nuriel. “Israelis will benefit, of course, but in Jordan and Egypt – both countries with large impoverished populations – the gas deal will be a solid, measurable metric of the benefits of peace and regional cooperation. That will help boost the regimes in the eyes of the masses, and strengthen both Egyptian President el-Sisi and Jordan’s King Abdullah in their own struggle against Islamist insurgents.”

No one seemed to address the question of the transmission lines' security and protection from Islamists and, sadly, extremist Israelis.

While it might help the incumbents in Egypt and Jordan, as long as the facts that (a) the gas is from Israeli off-shore fields and (b) the deal, Noble Energy not withstanding, still is between Israel and its neighbors on the other side of Israel's two quite borders.

What the deal probably does NOT do is put Israel in a good light to Egyptian and Jordanian citizens. They won't be told the gas is from Israel and transferred via Israel (in Egypt's case, from Israel to Egypt where the gas will be converted, then back to Israel and hence to Jordan. Egypt also may convert Israeli gas for distribution elsewhere - adding cash to Egypt's coffers for its service.)

They also won't see any direct impact (except perhaps lower electric bills). At this point, the intent is to use the gas to fuel electrical generating plants.

Jordanian minister downplays Israeli role in large gas deal

Doing what Muslims seem to do best - deny reality when it is in front of them, the Times writes that Rebuffing suggestions of improved ties with Israel, Jordan’s Energy and Mineral Resources Minister Mohammad Hamed noted Thursday that an estimated $15 billion gas deal announced Wednesday is not between the Israeli and Jordanian governments, but was rather forged between the Hashemite kingdom’s electric company and the US Noble Energy group.

On Wednesday, representatives from Israel’s Delek Group Ltd. and the US Nobel Energy Inc. company signed a memorandum of understanding in Amman, under which it agreed to supply the Hashemite Kingdom with $15 billion worth of natural gas from its Leviathan energy field over a decade and a half.

Israel decided last year to export 40 percent of the country’s offshore gas finds, and has since signed a 20-year, $1.2 billion deal with a Palestinian firm, and in June signed a letter of intent to supply energy to an Egyptian facility as well.

According to the Middle East Institute,

In January 2014 Israel signed its first natural gas export deal through which the Palestinian Power Generation Company (PPGC), the Palestinian Authority’s electric utility company, will purchase $1.2 billion worth of Israeli natural gas over a 20-year period. The gas will be shipped to a $300 million power plant that PPGC plans to build in the West Bank city of Jenin, with gas sales scheduled to commence in 2016 or 2017 when the Leviathan field will begin producing.

The deal could reduce Palestinian dependence on Israel’s electric grid, through which Palestinian energy needs are currently met. Under the existing arrangements, the Palestinian Authority has accrued a sizeable debt to the Israeli Electric Company due to habitual missed payments.

While the deal will not ease the West Bank’s heavy reliance on foreign energy, it has motivated the construction of a substantial Palestinian power plant, which should allow Palestinians to produce their own electricity, increase their capacity to manage energy, create jobs in the West Bank, and provide the basis from which to launch future energy partnerships.

Again, the "Israeli connection" will not be known to the average Jordanian, Egyptian, or "Palestinian", just as the amount of Israeli medical care is a closely guarded secret in the territories. If the people ever learn the truth, the Islamists would have to pack up and go home - wherever that might be (England, the US, France, Germany?).

יהיה טוב

Opuscula Will these seeds Bear fruit for peace?

 

An article from Israel 21c.org reports that

Three days before the ceasefire that has brought quiet in Israel and Gaza, an officer in the Palestinian Authority in Gaza braved the danger to bring his 10-month-old daughter, Fajar, to be prepped for lifesaving surgery at Wolfson Medical Center in Holon through Save a Child’s Heart (SACH).

On September 2, Fajar’s successful open-heart surgery was performed by SACH lead surgeon Dr. Lior Sasson along with Palestinian Dr. Addas and Ethiopian Dr. Mekonnen, both taking part in the SACH training program.

Fajar’s parents are well-acquainted with SACH. Last year, Fajar’s older sister Zachra, now two, was treated at Wolfson for a different type of heart condition. Zachra is due back at the hospital next week for reevaluation for a second surgery.

On Tuesday, five more children arrived from Gaza to SACH’s weekly clinic for Palestinian children. This clinic remained open all during Operation Protective Edge, says Shapira. “The SACH medical team continued to treat Palestinian children, including children from Gaza.”

This is the RULE rather than the exception.

When a "Palestinian" from Gaza or the territories wants high-level medical care, they cross over to Israel.

When a Syrian or Lebanese needs high-level medical care, they cross over into Israel.

Even terrorist/PA president Abu Mazzen (Mahmoud Abbas) sent his wife to an Israeli hospital for surgery in June of 2014.

Amina Abbas, underwent surgery in Tel Aviv's Asuta Hospital and is due to be released on Sunday, according to Israeli media sources.

Mrs. Abbas' surgery in the heart of Israel takes place at a time of great political tensions with Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu placing responsibility for the safety of kidnapped yeshiva students Gilad Sha'ar,16, Eyal Yifrach, 19, and Naftali Frankel, 16 on Abbas and the Palestinian unity government he heads.

I searched for a story about Amina's stay in Israel from the Muslim media and came up with zero hits. Imagine that.

While the Abbas surgery goes unreported in the Muslim media, it must be assumed that the SACH care likewise is hidden from the Muslim world.

You have to wonder if "Palestinians" such as Dr. Addas - training for advanced heart surgery with SACH in Israel will be allowed to even admit his skills were expanded in "the Zionist state"

It is amazing the hypocrisy that abounds in the Muslim world.

While Israelis save their lives - even as the Muslims are trying to kill the very people working to save them - the Muslims of the PA and Gaza do all in their power to dehumanize Israelis - Jews and non-Jews alike (even their fellow Muslims).

It will be interesting to see if the scars from the surgeries to save their lives will overcome the propaganda the children encounter in schools and on Muslim tv.

Only time will tell - but there not be enough time for the children to grow up and overcome instilled hatred for people who can, and did, save their lives.